Blacklist of Internet Advertisers

Canter and Siegel acknowledge Blacklist's importance in recent interview:

                             "On the day
           the anti-advertising vandals can convince customers
                 not to buy from Usenet advertisements,
                 that is the day advertising will stop."

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1. What is this?

This is the Blacklist of Internet Advertisers. It is intended to curb inappropriate advertising on usenet newsgroups and via junk e-mail. It works by describing offenders and their offensive behavior, expecting that people who read it will punish the offenders in one way or another.

The list is posted regularly to several newsgroups, stored on a number of FAQ archives around the world and the most recent version is always available on the WWW as Titus Brown ( is kind enough to operate a temporary mirror of the list in the US. It is updated daily and accessible as

If you read the non-html version and you don't know what to do with all the links given or what the WWW is or how to access it by email, send mail to with the text

  send usenet/news.answers/www/faq/*

in the body of the message.

Whenever you see a link of the form "BL/something" here, you can get a valid WWW address by prepending the string "" for the German version or "" for the US version of the list.

2. Who gets on the list, and for how long?

People and companies who were pointed out to me for sending out unsolicited commercial e-mail or posting inappropriate commercials to usenet newsgroups or mailing lists or who offer to help in doing same. I also monitor the newsgroups and

With "inappropriate commercials" I basically mean ads posted to unrelated newsgroups or mailing lists or to those which traditionally don't tolerate commercial messages. The number of complaints I receive is also a factor.

Everyone added to the blacklist gets notified so that they can correct possibly inaccurate information. As a general rule, people are taken off the list after 3 months unless they repeat their behaviour. Their entries are then move to the archive at BL/archive.html for educational purposes. Note that the archive is not part of the blacklist as such.

3. What is the philosophy behind it?

In a nutshell: the Internet is probably as close to an anarchy as we can get. This is good. Therefore, punishing of unwelcome behavior should be done by private individuals, following the same grass roots philosophy that governs the rest of the net. Read more about it in BL/blacklist_philosophy.html.

4. Spam, Velveeta, ... what are you talking about?

Spam and Velveeta are two fine food products which, on the Internet, stand for certain unwelcome behaviors.

Spam has its own page on the WWW: featuring a spam contest and many comments. More appropriate for our purposes is the SpamCam, featuring a frequently updated picture of rotting spam at Spam was also the main ingredient in a hilarious Monty Python sketch: is the transcript and is the sound recording.
On the Internet, spam stands for posting multiple copies of the same (or slightly altered) article to many newsgroups, without crossposting them. This means that the article will be transmitted to and stored on every usenet host multiple times: once for every newsgroup involved. EMP (Excessive Multi-Posting) is a different name for the same thing.

Although we don't have a dedicated Velveeta home page yet, there's at least a cheese page at
On the Internet, Velveeta means the excessive crossposting of an article to many unrelated newsgroups, also known as ECP.

Spam is much worse than Velveeta (try it!). Recently, more and more mixtures of the two appeared: many copies of an article, each of which crossposted to a large number of newsgroups. Some call this "jello".

For the purposes of this list, I won't make a distinction between spam, velveeta and jello - if the ad ends up in a wrong newsgroup, then it is by (my) definition inappropriate advertising and will be recorded.

5. What can I do with the blacklist?

If you judge that one of the described behaviors deserves some punishment, you could for example do one of the following. (Note that some of these might be illegal in some jurisdictions. Check the books first and don't blame me.)

     lynx -dump |
          sed -n /===Blacklist start===/,/===Blacklist end===/p |

6. What if I wanted to punish YOU?

You can use some of the measures from question 5 against me. The buddies who love to hear about the progress of my work hide behind

If you want to do it right though, you'll have to start a Blacklist of Blacklist Maintainers.

Also, please keep the threats of legal action coming - you don't do it in vain: the most amusing ones are published as BL/threats.txt while flames go to BL/flames.txt

Moreover, all usenet postings concerning the Blacklist will have the word "Blacklist" somewhere in the subject line. Put it in your kill file and you won't have to hear about it ever again.

7. How about other ways of dealing with commercial junk?

Here are other things you can do, short of having put people on the blacklist:

8. Who doesn't belong on this blacklist?

As you might have guessed, one blacklist is too small for all the assholes of the world. On a completely unrelated matter: the Church of Scientology's war against Usenet has been nicely documented by Ron Newman at

Also, the common Get-Rich-Quick and Make-Money-Fast pyramid schemes don't belong on this list. They usually come from newbies who are scared to death by some 20 well-written flames, and I believe blacklisting them here would be too harsh a treatment. However, if you catch one of these idiots, you can make money fast. For details, read BL/idiots.txt. Legal information about money making pyramid schemes is available at BL/pyramid_legal.txt

A blacklist of Make-Money-Fast posters is at

9. How to advertise on the Internet?

My advice is: create your own WWW page and announce it to the net. Note that the newsgroup comp.infosystems.www.announce does not accept commercial announcements any more, since it is operated by a volunteer. But you can find a twice-weekly FAQ titled "** FAQ: How To Announce Your New Web Site (Other Places) **" there. You also want to get your page listed in the various WWW libraries and indexes. Information about how to do this is at You can then publish your WWW address in paid ads in the print media as well.

If you must advertise on usenet, then the biz.* and *.marketplace groups are for you (not all at once!). As a general rule, you should read every group for at least a week before you post anything there. This way, you can find out what the group is all about and whether commercials are appreciated there. Note that *.forsale groups were created to accommodate users who want to sell some personal stuff and not for commercial ads. Also: the *.marketplace groups in local hierarchies like ny.* are only for products that have a genuine connection to that area, e.g. New York; it is not sufficient that you hope that someone from New York might want to buy your product. For information about these advertising newsgroups check out the Usenet Marketplace FAQ at

Never send out unsolicited commercial e-mail to individuals or mailing lists.

Here is a list of documents describing the netiquette and how it relates to advertising:

10. What other blacklists are out there?

There's one blacklist operated by Pierre Beyssac <> who tries to keep the french usenet hierarchy fr.* clean of all commercials. It is written in french, posted regularly to the groups, and and available on the web as Comes with neat cost estimates for all the ads.

Eric Bernabe <> maintains a Make-Money-Fast page which contains a blacklist-like section. It is at

Then there is a Lamer List at put together by Michael Red Rain <>. It contains the email addresses of people that posted "ADD ME TOO!!" articles.

The GIGO Game at contains a blacklist of junk emailers. It is put together by Mark Paschal <>.

Last but not least, our warm and heartfelt thanks go out to Mr. Vladimir Fomin for compiling the Blacklist of Net.Nazis and Sandlot Bullies BL/net_nazis.txt and to Dr John Grubor for taking the time to assemble the well researched list of Usenet Homosexuals BL/queer_list.txt. Two outstanding pieces of research; the large overlap between these lists points to an intriguing statistical truth. I am particularly honored to be featured on both lists.

11. How can I help?

12. How to give feedback?

I have set up some space on the web where you can leave your comments or read and respond to other people's remarks regarding the Blacklist. It's at

Please don't use that site to complain about specific advertisers.

13. The Blacklist in itself

I have formatted it in such a way that automatic processing becomes easy. Every entry can contain some or all of the fields ID, Name, Address, Phone, Email, Entered, Changed, Behavior, Remarks in this order. A line starting with whitespace is a continuation of the preceding line. Several Names, e-mail addresses etc. are separated by commas and optional whitespace. Blank lines separate the entries. Every entry has a unique ID so that your program can decide whether it has processed that entry before when a new list arrives. Furthermore, the original offensive article is accessible as<ID>.txt where the true ID is to be substituted for <ID> (or by just clicking on the ID if you read the HTML version of this document).

===Blacklist start===

ID:       CS941211
Name:     L. Canter, M. Siegel
Address:  3333 East Camelback Road, Suite 250, Phoenix, AZ 85260, USA
          Cybersell, P.O.Box 13510, Scottsdale, AZ 85267, USA
          Cybersell, 10245 E. Via Linda, Suite 222, Scottsdale,
          AZ 85258, USA
Phone:    (602) 661-3911, (602) 661-5202
Email:    73450.3565@CompuServe.COM
Entered:  1994/12/11
Changed:  1995/04/11
Behavior: The famous greencard lawyers. In 1994, they repeatedly sent
          out a message offering their services in helping to enter
          the US greencard lottery to almost all usenet newsgroups.
          (Note in passing: they charged $100 for their service, while
          participating in the greencard lottery is free and consists
          merely of sending a letter with your personal information at
          the right time to the right place.) When the incoming mail
          bombs forced their access provider to terminate their
          account, they threatened to sue him until he finally agreed
          to forward all responses to them. Read all about it with gopher

in Authors, Books.../Online Zines. They signed an agreement with their access provider, PSI, to refrain from sending out junk e-mail or spamming usenet. The text is available over the net as Nevertheless, they have repeatedly spammed usenet again, although the postings were quickly found and canceled by the cancelbot Cancelmoose[tm]. PSI has cut their USENET access. They have since written a book, "How to Make a Fortune on the Information Superhighway" and founded an internet advertising company, Cybersell. The book promotes several advertising strategies on the internet including gathering addresses from usenet and sending out junk e-mail, posting commercials to inappropriate newsgroups, advertising on irc and even via talk. They basically contend that all these behaviors are legal and therefore ok. They ridicule the terms "internet culture" and "netiquette" and claim that the internet, once all real-world laws are applied to it, will make a great source of income for attorneys. Canter & Siegel were behind the grand Credit Repair Spam and the Virtualmall spam. This finally forced their service provider,, to cut them off completely as of 1995/02/12. Update: At 1995/03/01, apparently acquired a new feed from sprint (800-669-8303). However, they can't be reached with ping yet. Sprint apparently has decided against providing access to them. On 1995/03/22, they spammed usenet again, this time with an ad for their book. A couple of interesting things to note about this one: - They spammed from two accounts, one on netcom and one on crl. The accounts have been nuked. - They put certain usenet hosts in the path line, so that their spam wouldn't reach these hosts, thereby trying to avoid the spam cancelers. To no avail, of course. - They systematically varied From and Subjet headers, again hoping to avoid being canceled. - They forged Approved-headers, so that their ad appeared in several moderated newsgroups. - The spam spilled into several mailing lists, prompting the following anti-spamming policy from the Debian mailing list: BL/debian.txt. The Water Spam, also orchestrated by C&S, shows similar characteristics. Remarks: Don't bug the owners of; they were the access providers for (and hence victims of) C&S during their first spam and acquired the domain name cybersell immediately - very much in the spirit of creative punishment :-) ID: AD941223 Name: Jess Guim, Advanz Home Office Companion Address: 319 East 95th Street, Dept. 2, New York, NY 10128-5761, USA Email: Entered: 1994/12/23 Changed: 1995/01/21 Behavior: Posted their ads about desktop publishing to several groups. Advertises his tool for creating e-mail lists of potential customers via unsolicited e-mail. When complaining to him, he sends even more information about his program. Remarks: He claims to give a 30 days money-back guarantee on his products. ID: TM941223 Name: TMI Phone: voice: 408-429-5400, fax: 408-429-6100 Email:,,, Entered: 1994/12/23 Changed: 1995/01/21 Behavior: Spammed the soc.culture hierarchy with ads for discount telephone service. Repeated it even after having been blacklisted. They recently tried to find out Cancelmoose[tm]'s spam criteria by posting a sequence of low-volume spams, which were classified as part of one big spam and hence canceled. Remarks: They have now their own domain,, but continue to use the newsserver of ID: KL950105 Name: Kevin Jay Lipsitz a.k.a. Krazy Kevin, Magazine Club Inquiry Center Address: 350 Richmond Terrace #5-P, Staten Island, NY 10301 PO Box 990, Staten Island, NY 10312 Phone: 718-967-1234, 718-967-1550 (fax), 718-967-1144 (fax), 800-433-1357 Email:, Entered: 1995/01/05 Changed: 1995/10/30 Behavior: Spammed almost the whole usenet repeatedly with anonymous ads (Hi, my name is Anne Nelson...") for a long distance calling plan. He was warned by the admin of the anon server, then lost his account there and did it again with a new account. He told me on the phone that a company called Card Call USA, INC. 6232 N. 7th ST. #109 Phoenix, AZ 85014 Phone: 602-264-7000 Fax: 602-266-0687 uses a pyramid-like promotion scheme where every customer gets a commission for each new customer they bring and in turn for each new customer these new ones bring and so on up to level 7. Kevin Lipsitz is a customer of Card Call USA and tries to bring new customers to get these commissions. His using the anon server is evidence enough that he knew that he was doing something wrong. Incidentally, he sent me the membership application for CC USA. Point #6 of the contract, which Kevin most probably signed, reads: "6. I agree to operate in a lawful, ethical, and moral manner and to do nothing that will adversely reflect upon CCUSAI, its clients or its other Independent Sales Representatives. I understand that any act deemed by CCUSAI to be detrimental to CCUSAI, in any manner, is grounds for the termination of my status as Independent Sales Representative and all corresponding commissions." As of 1995/02/20, he uses the new e-mail address at On 1995/02/26, he anon-spammed again, this time advertising his magazine club. It occurred again on 1995/03/04. He is also the source of the ubiquitous and persistent "===>> World's *Cheapest* Way to get USA Magazine Subscriptions..." postings and email list spams. The return address of these is often a FAX server. If you see a line "Hi, my name is <insert favorite female>", then it's from him. There have been complaints that he doesn't deliver all ordered magazines. Remarks: I tracked him down by answering to one of his ads using an old e-mail address, to which he promptly responded. The second time, I responded again to his anon ad, and he apparently recognized me and tried to harass me over the phone. Next was a truly pathetic first attempt at mailbombing. [Kevin, next time pick an ftpmail service without per day traffic limits, jeeez] His account on is no more. An excellent analysis of one of his recent postings and lots of personal information about him is at BL/kl_info.txt Recently, several articles about him, including cancel reports, have been canceled from As of 1995/04/28, he owns his own domain; DNS and mail service is provided by Internet access is provided by and Complaints should properly go to howardl@ABS.NET, the administrator of,, the administrator of and, the coordinator of connect2. Mail to is pointless since this is Kevin himself. His 1-800 number reaches him, even though he usually comes up with some bogus denial. Recently, an analysis of one of his email list assaults has been posted at The National Fraud Information Center is collecting information about him; read BL/kk_fraud.txt If you feel that some of his activities are criminal (involving fraud, harassment or theft of services, for example), you might wish to send a succinct letter to Supervisory Agent Robert E. Schlabach FBI 1 Center Plaza, Suite 600 Boston, MA 02108 USA ID: KK950105 Name: Kim Kerns, Applied Information Technologies, Inc. Address: POB 2634, Midlothian, VA 23113, USA Phone: 704-559-5988, 800-576-5146, 804-378-8050 Email:,, Entered: 1995/01/05 Changed: 1995/01/09 Behavior: Spammed many newsgroups with a long distance calling plan. Varied subject lines, posting sites and exact text, apparently to avoid cancelbots. The company selling the phone service is Applied Information Technologies, Inc., POB 2634, Midlothian, Va. 23113. This company employs a promotion scheme offering commission to every customer for each call people sponsored by them make. After being blacklisted and notified about it, he did it again repeatedly. Remarks: Note the 1-800 number. He doesn't seem to own vnet, so you can put pressure on his postmaster. ID: CY950121 Name: Cybergear Address: 2770 St. Albans NW, North Canton, Ohio 44720, USA Email: Entered: 1995/01/21 Changed: 1995/10/30 Behavior: Posted their ad for t-shirts to at least 30 unrelated newsgroups, sometimes changing the subject to avoid canceling and to make the postings technically on-topic. Did it again on 95/02/05. And again in May. ID: BO950212 Name: Stuart Bar-On, Parallel Performance Group Address: 450 Jordan Rd., Suite E, Sedona, AZ 86336, USA Phone: (520) 282-6300 (voice), (520) 774-0896 (fax) Email:,,,,, Entered: 1995/02/12 Changed: 1995/10/30 Behavior: Engage in a large-scale junk e-mail assault. Sent out unsolicited e-mail ads to postmasters, who were supposed to forward it to their "Marketing Directors". They got the addresses from InternNIC's list of registered domain names. In addition, they gathered e-mail addresses from usenet postings and sent unsolicited commercial e-mail to those. A new junk e-mail wave occurred around 1995/02/28. This time from I suspect that they scan usenet postings for certain Organization-lines in the header. Remarks: Their mail-bots and WWW pages are maintained by In addition, the domain name is owned by Bar-On but is nothing but a bunch of mailboxes on The domain, also owned by Bar-On, contains only a couple of mail-bots residing on ID: CL950228 Name: Cyberlink Inc. and various agents Address: 5855 Topanga Canyon Blvd., #520, Woodland Hills, CA 91367, USA Phone: 818-702-0456 (fax), 216-461-1770 (fax), 216-231-2857 (voice) 800-266-2006 (voice) Email: mvs3@po.CWRU.Edu, MRN@WVNVAXA.WVNET.EDU, 75017.605@CompuServe.COM,, fy755@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Entered: 1995/02/28 Behavior: Persistent, slow spam of soc.culture.* groups, advertising some long distance plan. Apparently, Cyberlink pays commissions to agents who brings new customers, and several of their agents spam. It's unclear whether Cyberlink is aware of that. They need to change their rules. Remarks: seems to be an automatic mail-back robot. ID: WC950415 Name: WWCD Inc., Steve Schall Phone: (410) 581-1110 Email:,, Entered: 1995/04/15 Behavior: Repeatedly posted announcements of their WWW server on a large number of sports related newsgroups. Respond to complaints with flames. Put at least 41 links to their server on The-Mother-of-all BBS at Remarks: Access provider is ID: JS951030 Name: Jeff Allen Slaton, a.k.a. SpAmKiNg Address: 6808 Truchas Drive NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109 Phone: (505) 821.1945 (fax/data modem) Entered: 1995/10/30 Behavior: Persistent and large scale email and usenet spam. Sometimes wants $5 for taking someone off his mailing list. His messages usually contain ads for other businesses, but sometimes also illegal money making pyramid schemes. Always uses fake From lines, sometimes in order to punish past access providers. He announced that he would get a T1 internet connection through MCI in order to annoy them; MCI has publicly stated that they won't give access to him. Some articles on criticizing him have been canceled by an anonymous party. Remarks: A web page containing personal information complete with Social Security Number, photo, phone number of his employer, and much more is at Some more information about where he lives is at BL/slaton_personal.txt. Please complain to the businesses advertising on his mass mailings and boycott them. He is probably connected to the net through a SLIP or PPP connection provided by InterRamp; they are unresponsive and owned by PSI. Contacting the Better Business Bureau about Slaton does not make sense since they don't deal with Internet cases. However, when it was suggested that the FTC be contacted about Slaton's activities, he became *very* pissed off. The New Mexico Attorney Genernal is investigating Slaton's practices as well. ID: PD951030 Name: Prime Data WorldNet E!Mail, Computer Enterprises, Vernon Hale Address: 1132 Richards Rd, Bowling Green, Ky 42104, USA Phone: (502)529-9106 (fax), (502)529-9304 (voice) Email:,, Entered: 1995/10/30 Changed: 1996/2/27 Behavior: Send out junk email newsletters with third party ads on them. Some people received the newsletter again even after having asked to be removed. Remarks: Please complain also to the individual advertisers listed. They have already lost an account on because of complaints. In the past, they have used to inject the messages. They also maintain accounts on The admins of both and don't see anything wrong with junk email and won't remove his account. Has recently (2/96) changed his business strategy to selling email spamming software by spamming usenet. ID: IS960227 Name: Sunset Direct, Doug Monahan Address: 9390 Research Blvd. Kaleido 2 Suite 350, Austin, TX 78759 Phone: (512) 464-8500 Email:,, Entered: 1996/02/28 Behavior: Large scale, repeated, world-wide email spam advertising their web site. Email addresses were obtained from usenet postings. Mailing lists and usenet groups were hit as well. Some of their messages contained fake return addresses. Remarks: Please inform the companies working with Sunset Direct (as featured on their site about Sunset Direct's marketing attempts. If they refuse to stop sponsoring Sunset Direct, they should be boycotted as well. Network connection is provided by A publicly posted statement from Dough Monahan is available as BL/monahan.txt and an emailed threat is at BL/monahan_threat.txt. Apparently, he sends out lots of those. ID: PE960301 Name: Promo Enterprises a.k.a. Cyber Promotions, Sanford Wallace Address: 8001 Castor Ave., Suite #127, Philadelphia, PA 19152 Phone: 800-650-9110 (phone), (215) 289-4610 (phone), 800-650-9230 (fax), 215-288-9230 (fax), 215-743-3750 (fax) Email: Entered: 1996/03/01 Behavior: Repeatedly sent out unsolicited junk email containing an amazing number of scams. Preferably targets online services; sometimes uses fake return addresses. Compuserve and ReplyNet think about sueing them: read BL/promo_comp.txt for details. Remarks: Their hilarious web page is provided by (; mail services are provided by Please notify the companies advertising with Promo about the likely effects. Mr Wallace has made his philosophy clear in a couple of articles; read BL/wallace.txt. He claims to only send his junk to people who have posted commercial ads on the WWW or usenet, which is patently false.

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